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Chaos Incarnate
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Caldreis
For those who are curious about building orca. *subject to changes*
Linky
Fixed your link
Also, for an ORE ship, the skills are right where they should be, the rorqual requires barges V as well
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Fulber
The Orca isn't a Rorqual. The Orca isn't a mini-Rorqual. The Retriever does not require Mining Barge V. Your statement is a complete non-sequitur.
The retriever isn't a capital ship, now is it
The Orca is a capital. It was designed by ORE. Requiring their ship skill (Mining Barges) to level 5 is pretty standard for capital ship requirements
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 23/10/2008 20:27:42
Originally by: Fulber
Last I checked, the Orca is a subcapital
'subcapital' in the same level as a freighter; ie, no jump drive. It still takes capital ship components, capital ship construction skills, and contains capital-ship specific features - which makes it a small capital ship, by ORE, which means it requires Barges V.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xindi Kraid
Edited by: Xindi Kraid on 23/10/2008 20:27:27
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Also, for an ORE ship, the skills are right where they should be, the rorqual requires barges V as well
The rorqual requiring Mining Barge V is also a mistake. if you have mining skills you should be mining, haulers should require a different skillset regardless of what faction they belong to.
The only significant change I can endorse is renaming the skill to "ORE Vessels" or something similar, as ORE has expanded significantly over the years and has become somewhat more varied than just mining barges
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Posted - 2008.10.23 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 23/10/2008 21:39:53
Originally by: Fulber
Rorqual is a capital. Not a subcapital. Not a supercapital.
Orca is a subcapital. Not a capital. Not a supercapital.
Capital Ship components and Capital Ship construction skills are used for subcapitals, capitals, and supercapitals.
Sure. But all three (sub, super, and regular) are all of a similar type, which I am (and have been) referring to as capital ships. Their general usage and scope is beyond that of most single pilots, and are largely intended for group and corporate use.
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- You stated the Orca is the same class as the Rorqual.
- You stated all ORE ships require Mining Barge V.
You misread me, x2.
The Orca is a similar ship to the Rorqual, in that it falls under the general umbrella of capital (sub, super, and regular) ship, as I explained above.
Both ships are produced by ORE, and because they're capitals, require their largest non-capital (sub, super, and regular) similar ship skillbook trained to five as a prereq (Gallente carrier requires Gal BS V, Caldari Freighter requires Caldari Industrial V). ORE doesn't have any others, so Mining barge it is.
In short:
-The Orca is a 'capital' ship, in that its usage is intended for multiple players
-The Orca is produced by ORE
-Therefore, the Orca is a 'capital' ORE ship
-All 'capital' ships require a similar racial skillbook trained to five
-As no others exist, the best racial skillbook is Mining Barges
-Therefore, the Orca should require Barges V.
Happy?
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Posted - 2008.10.23 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Blaster Babe
*The pungent stench of tears and shame emanate from this post*
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